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"Warning - Entry Sensor Open"

Recently our system has begun giving this warning often when armed at night "Warning - Entry Sensor Open"

I can usually clear this warning by going around and opening some or all of the entry points. It does not seem to be a consistent entry point. Last night i had to do them all several times.

It is also my recollection that the system used to say which sensor was open like "Warning - Entry Sensor Open - Stairs" but this does not seem to be the case from todays test.

When this happens I can go into the app, go to devices and refresh from the base station and all of the sensors will say closed. We do not have any entry sensors in the system that are not named.

The base station was recently reset to fix a problem with several sensors "not responding" though only one of them was an entry sensor.

I called tech support and they said that i would have to call back when it was doing it (naturally it worked fine when we were on the phone) but I am not sure if they are going to be able to tell unless they hear the base station since the app always reports they are closed anyway. Perhaps there is more granular information on their side but the only place i can find this reported is by the base station there is nothing in the time line about it. Consequently i do not know if it does this in away mode or not.

Any ideas?

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So it did it again last night.

The keypad said "porch door open - it will be monitored when closed - 2 hours ago" the app said all of the sensors were closed.

I had gone out of the porch door about that time.

Opening and closing the porch door or clearing the message on the keypad made the warning go away.

Next time I need to just clear the warning on the keypad and rearm to see if that makes the warning go away.

The porch is one of the new sensors.

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Happened again tonight, announced garage door open (its a regular 3x6.8 door not the roll up) key pad says "garage door open - it will be monitored when closed - 10 hours ago", APP says all sensor closed.

disarmed cleared message on keypad, nothing else, rearmed all is well. (no announcement the garage door is open)

The Keypad has been replaced.

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I just had this issue. I discovered that even though the sensor is now closed, the warning from yesterday was still on the keypad, though not reported on the app anywhere. After clearing the old keypad warning, it no longer announced the entry sensory was open. 

it would be nice if you could clear these from the app. 

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Clear the keypad manually and it will stop announcing open sensors. 

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I love how the wrong answer gets marked as the "official solution". 

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@krstrick​ my answer is for anyone coming into this thread in the future looking for more general info. And of course, it's official, because it's coming from me.

Your situation was a more unique case, which seems to already be resolved. But yes, marking your own follow-up as Accepted Solution will ensure that it's floated to the top - so future visitors will see it as well.

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My base station just started doing this. No warnings on the keypad, and the app shows all sensors closed. I checked all entry sensors and they are definitely closed. I had not done the most recent update so I’m trying that now. 

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I did the update an the base station did not give me the warning again. We’ll see if it worked for good. 

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@dpeairson​ Glad to hear that the update seemed to do the trick. If you do run into that issue again, just reach back out here and I'd be happy to help you out.

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Well, here we go again.

Sensor stoped responding, sensor would be restored if you opened and closed the door. Lights flashed once/twice when opened and closed. Sensor constantly reported as open.

Clearing keypad dod not fix that.

Replaced battery in sensor, all normal for 2 days than "sensor not responding" (why does this always happen in the middle of the night) opening and closing the door restored the sensor but base continued to report sensor not responding (app reports all is well when "pull down") cleared keypad message and base stoped reporting sensor not responding.

This needs work.

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Hi @krstrick​ 

Because this issue has been ongoing for you, I've requested a call from our specialist team. They'll be able to go over your system and identify the root cause of the recurring sensor not responding error you're receiving with you on the phone.

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And yet again...

E mailed the referenced contact after replacing sensor again and getting sensor not responding warning a day later.

Replaced keypad batteries too.

Failure the clear the "open sensor" on the keypad and the sensor not responding warnings continue...

Very Frustrating.

R

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@krstrick​ I'm having the same issues. I've reset the faulty sensors, changed batteries in sensors and keypad, rebooted... I've had to replace two sensors so far this past year. There's got to be a solution to this...

Regards,

ML Fox

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Hi @MLFox,

 

Have you tried swapping that sensor (let's call at Sensor A) with a different one at a different spot (let's call that Sensor B)? Just leave the magnet, and the mounting bracket, and just swap the main sensor piece.

 

If Sensor A starts having trouble in that new spot, then we know it's a problem with that specific sensor. But if Sensor B starts having trouble, then we'll know that it's likely an issue with that location. Perhaps the sensor is too far from the magnet piece, or maybe it's installed on top of something metal (iron, steel) and is demagnetizing. You'll just want to reposition the sensor for that first issue, and adding a bit of padding (maybe a piece of plastic or cardboard) underneath both pieces for the latter.

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And here i am again.

This is really what turns out to be 3 interrelated problems:

  • Sensors reporting incorrect status (IE open when actually closed)
  • Sensors stop responding
  • Keypad retains non current warning status. (IE porch door is open it will be monitored when closed - 9 hours ago) when you exited and immediately closed a door.

On at least 2 occasions I've been directly contacted by experienced representatives (this is good) but been unable to have follow up conversations (this is  bad) with the same person. The last time after at least 2 e-mails I got a reply that said basically "tell him I'm too busy to mess with him - call the normal number" (this is really not good).

Now in SS's defense everyone is very nice and polite and usually offers some concession in the form of comp'ed monitoring or something and I'm not un-grateful for that, but it does not solve my systems problems.

The last time (when i called the normal number as directed) was an absolute waste of everyones time and SS's money because all this person did was send me yet another "new" entry sensor. I say "new" because it was refurbished and he wanted the old one back, so SS paid shipping both ways on a 14.00 entry sensor (probably less as it was "refurbished") Took my sensor that i bought new and which there was nothing wrong with obviously since i have the same door not responding after less than 24hours.

This person did not seem very interested in hearing the history (long history) of issues nor actually diagnosing just "lets try a sensor" - Umm we've been trying sensors for a year... what's that saying about repeating the same thing and the definition of insanity.... seemed like a typical call center drone following a script and probably has some metric about how many calls he handles a day and wants me off the line.....

I currently have ZERO confidence that SS can provide me a consistently properly functioning security system and very low confidence they are interested in actually solving the issue.

Cannot recommend SS to anyone at this point, disappointing.

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@krstrick​ I'm really sorry to hear that the issues you've been having with your system are still ongoing.

All three of the issues you describe point to the same main issue, with connectivity between the local components. The most common cause for communication errors like that would be environmental, so I can understand how multiple replacements would not work.

But the other common denominator here would be the Base Station. Have we already offered to replace that for you? If we have, and the communication issues persist, then we can fully rule out hardware as the issue and will have to keep troubleshooting for environmental causes and looking for sources of interference.

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Hi Davey.

The base station was replaced early on because it would not update. But not for this issue. In fact the earlier of the 2 Techs (I can PM you her name if you like) surmised that this might be the issue but I have not gotten much traction when discussing this with later people.

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Ah,

That first Base Station was having an unrelated issue, but was otherwise communicating properly? And we haven't sent a replacement since then? I will DM you so I can put through a request for a replacement myself.

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Yes, the original base seems to communicate with sensors properly, it was having WiFi issues and would not update past 1.6 if i recall correctly.

Thank you fingers crossed the new base fixes this issue...

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So what happened? I'm totally engaged in this drama and there is no happy ending...no ending at all! Did the new base station work?

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We have had our SimpliSafe system for a year now and have had well over a hundred "Entry Sensor Open" notifications when setting the alarm and it is not the same sensor.  It goes from a bathroom window "open" to the utility room door to the garage door.  It pretty much stays within these three sensors.  So, then recently I saw a notice for a system update being available, but that doesn't work because that notice says it cannot complete the update, that something went wrong and to try again.  So, I hit the Try Again button and just get into a Do Loop without anything being accomplished.  We are around the house most of the time, but my concern would be is that if we ever took a trip and had one of the open sensor alarms happen, there goes any feeling of being secure......   Oh well, any solutions to all this yet?  Open sensors and not being able to update?

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@jarrettboyAn Entry Sensor is marked as open when its magnet and sensor are farther than two inches apart. However, if you keep getting a notification that a sensor is open when the door or window is closed, the Entry Sensor may have an issue detecting the magnet.

Typically, this happens when an Entry Sensor is placed on a metallic surface, as it demagnetizes the sensor, which can cause it to read an incorrect open/closed state. I would look at the placement of your three sensors that sometimes read as open and see if they're on metal. If they are, I would place a buffer between the sensor and surface - this can be anything like a piece of cardboard or another layer of adhesive. 

As for updating your Base Station, is it currently connected to Wi-Fi? The Base Station does need a Wi-Fi connection to install an update.

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Personally, my issue was there is a timing race condition in the system. If you turn on the alarm and then immediately close a door, there is a small window of time between when the system is checking the state of all sensors (or something), and when it has armed. When I change the state of one or more of the devices within that window, it will say something like “system armed, warning: back door entry sensor open”, even when the door is closed, and doesn’t ever realize the door was closed unless I disable the alarm and try the process again more slowly.

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Still same ol thing.

The rep assigned no longer answers e-mails, offshore support refuses to try to locate him or his supervisor, claims they cannot send message to supervisor.

Don't really listen to what you say either.

:(

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@krstrick   I only have one suggestion to try if you haven't already. Suspicions being weak RF from base station.

I'm not about to read a 3 year thread. 

Search, "Extended Range SimpliSafe" entry sensor on Etsy. Has a wire extension on the sensor RF antenna. Extends range significantly. Link below, copy and paste.

https://www.etsy.com/listing/1725014925/extended-range-simplisafe-entry-sensor

But they're about $20 I think and retrofitted already to find out if it works or doesn't in your use case. Also voids warranty.

I skimmed the thread, many things can affect sensors and cause them to drop.

No guarantees, I don't make or sell them.

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Finally got ahold of Rep and worked on it over the last week.

Moved base which resulted in a different sensor not responding...

Replaced base and keypad... allegedly the newer bases have improved wireless... we will see we have a check in appointment in a week.

I will say the rep working with us is very patient, understands the issue and tries diligently to help... 

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@krstrick​ Well, same here if I move my original base to the south end of the house I get a sensor or two dropping.

Moved it back north 12 feet and all sensors are happy.

So, working with their inside tech who also calls very little or replies to email, lol, he is a good guy though and has tried being helpful, as possible within the limitations of his authority.

Anyhow I added a 2nd Base, set it up as self monitoring just to test RF signal to outdoor cameras. Only two outdoor cameras on the 2nd Base. No sensors yet necessary. One on north end on a window sill, the original on the south end in computer room.

Moved bases everywhere there was a receptacle over a week or so. I'm retired, lots of time to fiddle.

There seemed be better response from my outdoor cameras. But it worsens and degresses over time as they fall asleep again. 3 are in performance mode and solar power. PAID, Self monitoring with cameras for all 7.

The problem is if you have 911 paid for monitoring that won't work, only a fool would pay them twice for monitoring.

What they could do, probably in firmware is make it possible to link a 2nd base for now, as an extender. Until or if they ever develop something. And add it as a device so its shared on one account, add sensors or cameras etc.

I don't have 911 monitoring, what with call delays, text or push possibly for the first two minutes of an alarm, slow police response in some areas.

I can tap my Samsung power button a few times fast and it calls 911 a heck of a lot faster. And I have other emergency apps & options if needed. 

If you experiment similarly, they "might"and provide an additional base and keypad pro bono, or they're available new in box for the pair on eBay for about $50.

They should have nipped many things in the bud years ago. But looks like its not gonna happen.

So, I'm just continuing to build my home grown system. Added some wet sensors to test today. Adding a couple vibration sensors to test as glass break. ZigBee currently.

Door sensors and my alarm integration in Home Assistant has been functional for months. Never drops a sensor, because Zigbee and Z-wave have repeaters.

I'm either using Wyze WiFi cams or POE. Haven't decided completely, but lean POE for local only and no cloud storage. NVR harddrives and consistent cameras operation.

There is no fix for me right now. Maybe never.

Anyhow, good luck! 

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