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Next Generation Hazard Protection: Introducing the NEW 2-in-1 Smoke & CO Detector
SimpliSafe is proud to announce the latest advance in whole home protection: the new 2-in-1 Smoke & Carbon Monoxide Detector!
Bringing together the benefits of our existing standalone Smoke Detector and Carbon Monoxide (CO) Detector, this new 2-in-1 component takes protection a step further, using advanced technology so it can detect real hazards - like actual fire and smoke - while reducing false alarms from non-threatening events like burning food. The new pre-alert function can produce a warning from your alarm system, so you can take action before low levels of smoke become a full fire alarm event. And just like the rest of your SimpliSafe system, it takes advantage of Fast Protect technology to get emergency assistance to your door when you need it most.
The Smoke and Carbon Monoxide Detector is available now! Head over here to get yours today.
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davey_d
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1 year ago
Hi all,
I’m so glad to see to much interest in our latest product! I see some important questions being raised in this thread, so I’ll endeavor to answer all in one post.
First, just like with our standalone CO Detector and Smoke Detector, the 2-in-1 Smoke & CO Detector is intended to work in tandem with your existing fire safety devices. The advantage is having a single device that warns of both fire and carbon monoxide, and is connected to 24/7 professional monitoring service. On top of that, the Smoke & CO Detector also features smart tech that can differentiate between different types of particles, which is how it can tell the difference between non-threatening smoke, and actually hazardous smoke.
It is possible for the Smoke & CO Detector to be set up for compliance with local regulations, and you should work with your local fire marshal for specific requirements in your area. That said, it does help to be more informed about how the Smoke & CO Detector works, and that’s what we’re here for!
For reference in terms of industry standards, the Smoke & CO Detector complies with UL-217 (for the smoke detector piece) and UL-2034 (for the CO detector piece), and with the alarm system can be configured for UL-985 as a fire warning system. When an alarm event is initiated, the Smoke & CO Detector that is triggered will sound a siren. When paired with a system, the Base Station and any connected Wireless Sirens will also sound. However, other smoke and CO detectors (including our standalone units) will not sound, unless they also detect hazards.
Keep those questions coming! We’re excited to finally be able to talk about the Smoke & CO Detector, and can’t wait to hear what you think when you have it in your hands.
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worthing
732 Messages
1 year ago
I just received the email announcing the new "2-in-1 Smoke & Carbon Monoxide Detector" with a link to the product page:
https://simplisafe.com/smoke-and-carbon-monoxide-detector
I have a few questions:
1) Are the capabilities /features of the smoke and CO detectors in the 2-in-1 unit different (read: improved) than the capabilities of the dedicated smoke detector and the dedicated CO detector? If so, please explain how.
2) Why on earth didn't you all add AC power with battery as a back up to these units? This method of power (wired w/ battery back up) is a requirement in many areas so this can't replace existing wired solutions for many of us.
3) In the FAQ on the product page one of the questions is "If the Smoke & CO Detector siren is going off, will my other SimpliSafe sirens sound as well?" and the answer given is:
THis language is very clear that the base station and sirens will go off when the 2-in-1 goes off but it doesn't mention whether the dedicated CO detector, dedicated smoke alarm and the new 2-in-1 detectors will go off when the new 2-in-1 unit goes off. Can you please clarify the behavior here? I'm guessing this is no different than what we have currently and these will NOT all go off if one goes off.
3a) Assuming the answer above is what I expect and the other detectors do not go off if one goes off, why on earth didn't you all add this functionality? Just as with 2) above this is a building code requirement in many areas and once again you've released a product that can't replace a solution we have today.
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Curtis
1 Message
1 year ago
This device doesn't meet California code for smoke detectors. Since 2014, California has required wireless smoke detectors to have a 10 year battery life with a sealed battery compartment.
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dawndenizkurt
1 Message
1 year ago
This device does not meet Massachusetts code for smoke/carbon detectors
I would definitely replace mine with these when their 10 years is up which is not that far off. But they don't meet code so I cannot.
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bxnybm
1 Message
1 year ago
Nice
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worthing
732 Messages
1 year ago
Bump? It's been over 48 hours since I asked some simple questions about a new product that should be trivial to answer. Can we get a product manager or someone in the know to come here and engage with us?
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Streaky
31 Messages
1 year ago
Will and when will this be available in the UK?
As smoke and CO2 detectors can be easily 'falsely' triggered in normal working conditions in a domestic kitchen, have you considered adding a "rate-of-rise" temperature detector?
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MooseHead
1 Message
1 year ago
Bought 4 of them, they are working perfectly when tested. Hopefully I never have to actually need them.
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worthing
732 Messages
1 year ago
@davey_d
https://www.kidde.com/home-safety/en/us/fire-safety/fire-safety-laws/
If you search for "interconnected" and "hardwired" and you'll see 40+ states require one or both of these things.
You'll also notice the following for California specifically:
"Effective July 1, 2014, no person shall market, distribute, offer for sale, or sell any smoke alarm that is not operated by a non-replaceable, non-removable battery that is capable of powering the smoke alarm for at least 10 years."
Technically speaking, it seems you all are breaking the law (and have been since 2014), selling your smoke alarms in CA. You can find the text of the bill at https://openstates.org/ca/bills/20132014/SB745/ which says:
Y'all really seem to be struggling with CA laws. I'm still waiting, a year later, for an answer about the CA law you appear to be breaking regarding not providing an online method for people to terminate their service. Let that sink in, A YEAR LATER. If past performance is an indicator of future performance I'll still be waiting in a year for a response to this thread. (And, I'd probably wager $10 at least, a response to the other thread!)
Edit: If you go to the KIdde site above and also search for "non-removable" you'll see that in addition to CA there are laws in Illinois that also require a non-removable battery as of this year::
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jcrawford360
22 Messages
1 year ago
Are y’all considering producing a Rate of Rise Heat Detector? Would love to purchase those.
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tompmad
3 Messages
1 year ago
@davey_d I hope it’s an improvement over the smoke alarm. I’ve had 4 false alarms, 2 replacements. Last nite got another false alarm. I’m returning 4 smoke detectors for refund
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Happydays16
1 Message
1 year ago
Will this only work with the Gen 3 base station? How can you tell with base station you have?
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jstover125
1 Message
1 year ago
Hi. Do you have any documentation showing that the smoke detectors, and the system as a whole, meet NFPA 72 standards for fire monitoring? Twin Falls, ID fire department is requiring a hardwired system, but we're in a 40 year old home with no existing system. Huge undertaking to wire it if we can't find documentation to prove to them a SimpliSafe system would meet the NFPA 72 code.
Any help here is greatly appreciated.
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prquigley
1 Message
1 year ago
My daughter's new smoke/CO alarm went off last night while she was in the shower, with the bathroom door closed. The normal smoke alarm in the same space was not activated. Apparently this unit is sensitive to humidity and needs to be placed a good distance away from bathrooms, which in her case will put it farther away from the bedrooms, possibly defeating the purpose.
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sissonrick
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10 months ago
Why does the Co/smoke detector have a flashing white light, that flashes randomly. The units are installed in living areas. A real sleep deprivation device.
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