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When is an alarm signal actually sent to COPS?
I asked this question somewhere else in the forum replying to a similar topic, but due to lack of search feature, I cannot locate if it was ever answered.
Many users and SimpliSafe folks say to hide the base unit. I wonder why?
Is it because the base unit sends nothing until the entry delay period expires without a proper disarm pin code being entered?
On my previous alarm system from Brinks (originally Livewatch/Safemart), as soon as someone entered, the base panel sent a pending alarm notification to the monitoring center. If the disarm pin was not sent to the monitoring center within the 45 second entry period, then the monitoring center's system would sound a break-in alarm. In other words, if someone entered and smashed the panel within the 45 second entry period, it did not matter because a pending alarm signal was already sent and it would go to full alarm after 45 seconds.
Does the SimpliSafe system work the same way? If so then why is it necessary to hide the base unit? If it does not work that way then why not?
Many users and SimpliSafe folks say to hide the base unit. I wonder why?
Is it because the base unit sends nothing until the entry delay period expires without a proper disarm pin code being entered?
On my previous alarm system from Brinks (originally Livewatch/Safemart), as soon as someone entered, the base panel sent a pending alarm notification to the monitoring center. If the disarm pin was not sent to the monitoring center within the 45 second entry period, then the monitoring center's system would sound a break-in alarm. In other words, if someone entered and smashed the panel within the 45 second entry period, it did not matter because a pending alarm signal was already sent and it would go to full alarm after 45 seconds.
Does the SimpliSafe system work the same way? If so then why is it necessary to hide the base unit? If it does not work that way then why not?
captain11
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4 years ago
For us, all of our intrusion sensors are set to instant trigger, except the one entry door. To address this for home mode, we are in bed on the 2nd floor, don't expect anyone to come in. Setting on entry and exit delay is 0. In effect, the one entry door is on "instant trigger". For away mode, the one door is set 45 sec exit but the entry is reduced to 30 sec. And good luck finding the base in 30 seconds. Very confident system is very effective.
I do know two others that have entry to 0 for away mode too, and use the SS phone app to turn off the system before they enter. Using the key fob would work too. Sorry but too manually intensive for my philosophy of "ME" (Minimal Effort) :-)
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duffy_4
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4 years ago
So the solutions are to hide the base to make it hard to find within 30 seconds. So if you hide the base unit, you will not see the color indicators on the unit, you probably will not hear the voice responses and the siren will most likely be harder to hear if the base is well hidden.
The next option is to set the entry sensors for immediate trigger. That is sort of a solution, but in the case of my home and one of my children's home, you will trigger a motion detector first (just added a motion detector at my house) before getting to the keypad so those two critical sensors cannot go to instant trigger. In addition, I can see an increase in false alarms, especially in homes with kids, due to forgetting the system is armed home and opening a window or door and immediately triggering an alarm.
I would really like to hear from Johnny at SimpliSafe to get the company's thoughts on this and why they did not implement immediate pending alarm signals to the monitoring centers which can prevent "smash and grab."
Captain, thanks again for your thoughts and response.
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whoaru99
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3 years ago
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duffy_4
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3 years ago
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captain11
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3 years ago
Best of luck with your new system!
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