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Saturday, February 4th, 2023 3:12 AM

Cancel alarm by text - how to opt out?

How do I opt out of the ability to cancel an alarm by replying “C” to an alarm text message?  We don’t want to be in a scenario where the burglar/home invader forces us to cancel the alarm by text message while we’re home. We would like to retain our ability to request help by entering our duress PIN on the keypad so  that the burglar thinks the alarm was canceled but is unaware that help is coming. 

I called SS support and they had no idea what I was talking about.

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2 years ago

Hi @Boring_Joe ,

I personally would recommend that you keep Alarm Texts available as an option. It's the fastest way to request help from Monitoring when you need it.

Keep in mind that Alarm Texts does not replace the regular phone call, nor the Duress PIN option. All three are available for you at the same time! An intruder wouldn't know how you have your service set up, so if you're ever in a duress situation, you can still use the Duress PIN, or wait for the phone call and give any word except your Safe Word (both will result in dispatch).

But if you do wish to opt out of Alarm Texts, you can do so through the SimpliSafe App under Menu > Alerts & Notifications > SMS Alerts > Recipient > Alarm Triggered > toggle On/Off.

You can read more details about Alarm Texts in the Help Center article here.

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2 years ago

@Boring_Joe Excellent question and as this is a new feature being rolled out, I and I am sure others, are glad you asked the question. The Customer Support Team has been pretty good at monitoring the online community and sure they will post here soon.  As far as the agent's knowledge, that is a mangement issue.

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2 years ago

@davey_d An intruder only needs to know that I have a SimpliSafe system to know that I have the option to cancel an alarm by text without having to provide my PIN or safe word.  So when we're home, an intruder can force me to use this method to cancel the alarm and there will be no duress warning sent to central monitoring and no help will arrive.  An alarm should never be allowed to be canceled without the PIN or safe word, regardless of the method of cancellation (keypad, text, or app).  This creates a potentially unsafe situation.  This is precisely why we didn't purchase keyfobs, and went with Panic buttons.  So that we have full duress capability without compromise.

Also, the alarm text says we have 2 minutes to cancel the alarm by text.  Does this mean that there's now a 2 minute delay before the central station calls the home owner and sends help, regardless of the fact that I have my entry delay set to zero/30 seconds? 

I would appreciate answers to the following questions:

1.  Can I opt out of the ability to cancel an alarm by text (since no PIN or safe word is required) without having to opt out of alarm texts altogether?

2.  If not, will Simplisafe fix this situation so that those customers that need duress capability without bypass can have what we thought we paid for?

Thanks.

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@Boring_Joe,

Currently, you cannot opt out of the ability to cancel an alarm via text without opting out of Alarm Texts altogether. However, as Davey said, Alarm Texts will not replace your Duress Pin - you can use it in any alarm event. 

It is a great suggestion to opt out of canceling an alarm through text while still keeping Alarm Texts. I'll pass this idea along to our dev team.

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2 years ago

@emily_s The problem is that I can only send a duress message from the keypad.  There is no option to use the duress PIN when canceling the alarm by text message or in the app.  During a home invasion, which are usually targeted and planned out well ahead of time, the invader may know that they can prevent me from sending a duress signal to the central station (a silent call for help unknown to the invader) by forcing me to cancel the alarm by simply replying to the alarm text message sent to my phone.

So, yes, technically one can still use the duress PIN with alarm texts enabled.  But do you see how being able to cancel the alarm by text message or app without the option to send a duress signal via those methods, can put the home tenants at risk during a home invasion?  I hope that I've explained it so it's clear now.

Also, the alarm texts state that we have 2 minutes to cancel the alarm.  Does this mean that the central station won't call us and/or send the authorities until at least 2 minutes have passed?  Does being enrolled in alarm texts override my 0/30 second entry delays set in the system?

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@Boring_Joe​ that "2-minute timer" only applies to canceling via the Alarm Text, and the phone call sequence is in parallel to that. I have more detailed answers here.

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@davey_d​ I have read that support article before and read it again just now. I still don’t understand.  If monitoring calls anyway shortly after the alarm is triggered and will send authorities if I don’t answer, then I really don’t have 2 minutes to cancel the alarm by text. Correct?

Also, just to confirm an alarm is not considered triggered until after the entry delay expires, correct?

Does instant trigger override any entry delay?

Finally, if entry delay is set to 30 seconds and my front door entry sensor is NOT set to instant trigger, does the base station notify central monitoring immediately when the front door is opened?  Then if a disarm signal is not received at central monitoring before entry delay expires, it’s considered a triggered alarm?  This would ensure that a burglar cannot destroy the base station during the entry delay period before it has a chance to send an alarm triggered signal to central monitoring. Is this how it works?

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@Boring_Joe​ the phone call, and the Alarm Text, are two separate processes happening at the same time.

So as soon as the signal is sent from your Base Station that an alarm has started, our server sends you the Alarm Text. From the moment it is sent, you have a whole 2 minutes to request help or cancel via text.

At the same time, also right after the alarm signal is sent, the Grace Period begins, then our Monitoring agent will start the call to your Primary contact.

If you respond via text before you get the call, it cancels the call sequence, so you won't get a call. So for example, if you texted back an H, the operator will skip the call to you and call your local police right away.

If you miss the phone call, you still have however many seconds left to respond via text. The agent may already be on the way to calling your other Primary number, or even your local police. So yes, there's a chance that the agent is already talking to your local police before the 2 minutes are up. But if you send a "C" text at that time, the operator will still get that message and attempt to cancel dispatch.

The actual "Alarm Event", which triggers both the Alarm Text and the phone call from an operator, doesn't start until after the Entry Delay countdown ends.

If that Alarm Event doesn't appear on your timeline, there won't be any action via text or phone call.

Instant Trigger is a setting for each sensor. Yes, when that sensor is triggered, it bypasses the Entry Delay entirely, and the Alarm Event begins immediately.

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