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Tuesday, November 8th, 2022 3:20 AM

Outdoor camera won’t connect to wifi

Following all recommendations but still won’t connect. Connected fine and worked fine for weeks. Both outdoor cameras went offline and won’t reconnect no matter what I do. Close to dumping the whole system for my home and business and buying new one. Not worth the time to sit in the phone to be told to do the same thing that I’ve tried many times. One last chance…….

7 months ago

I've got 3 separate security systAll the same BS. All cameras worked flawlessly for 6 months, then 6 cameras stopped working, disappeared on the home system, 6 on the office system a d 2 on our equipment storage building. All all disappeared from the app. Have spent doze s of hours on a solution and have nothing. But all other items connected and cameras are ok. Just exterior cameras 

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@firelandsplumbing​ Are you able to see these cameras in the SimpliSafe web app, or are they gone from there as well? Also, have you already tried resetting your Outdoor Cameras? If not, I would recommend trying that by pressing and holding the button on the back of the camera for 30 seconds. Once you release the button, you will be prompted to set it back up in the SimpliSafe mobile app. 

And have you already gotten in touch with our Support team on this? They'll be able to take a deeper look into your account to see why this may have happened.

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7 months ago

Gonna throw my experience into the discussion here in the off chance it might help from a troubleshooting standpoint:

We got a brand new system about a week ago. The base station, keypad, and outdoor cameras won't connect to my wifi. I worked on hospital networked systems for 25 years, so I am no rookie when it comes to routers and wifi setup and security.

The system is set for ONLY 2.4 GHxz (the 5 GHz band is turned off) and I am using WPA2 security.

I can connect other devices in the home (my iPhone, wife's iPhone, son's Laptop, etc.) to this network with no issues whatsoever.

But the SimpliSafe equipment will do the following:

- Find the wifi network when searching for networks

- Accept the password (which has been verified in the router and on the devices and again pointing out that password works for other devices just fine)

- (Base station) Fails to connect at this point

- (Hand Controller) States it is connected, but when you attempt an update or anything like that, it reports it has no wifi connection.

- Both the hand controller and base station show up on my router's network map, so I know they are being assigned a MAC and IP by the DHCP, but nevertheless, they are not connected as far as SImpliSafe is concerned. On the Customer Service reps end, she sees "Connecting..." and cannot push data to them.

One interesting tidbit here. As a troubleshooting step, we turned on the hotspot on many wife's iPhone and tried connecting the base station and keypad to that, and it worked immediately. We were even able to download the latest firmware updates for the system this way. My hope was that the updates might resolve the connection issues with my router, but they did not.

After receiving the firmware updates and verifying the firmware version (2.14.10.0) on the app, we tried to connect to the router again. Same problem as described above. No change.

At this point, the CS rep is sending me out an extender that she says she has an easy time connecting SimpliSafe devices to. The hope here is that the extender will connect to my router and serve the same function as the hotspot did - allowing me to connect the base station and keypad (and then cameras) to the extender.

I'll have to report back here if that works as I have not yet received the extender - it just shipped yesterday.

As others have suggested in this thread, all the symptoms seem to point to a problem in the software handshaking between SImpliSafe devices and routers. The problem does not appear to be on my end for the following reasons:

Lynksys AC2200 Router:

- I am using 2.4 GHz (as required)

- I am using WPA2 encryption (as required)

- I can freely connect multiple other devices in my home to this network with no issues.

I have ever tried connecting the system to another router in my home that is a slightly older Linksys WRT1900ACS and it still won't connect. Also with 2.4 and WPA2.

Why your system will connect to an iPhone hotspot and not to a Linksys router directly is a question worth having your engineers look into. There is something inherently different in the way your software sees one versus the other. I have tried researching this myself, but have yet to find an answer.

If the extender doesn't work I'll have no choice to box the system up and return it.

If it does work, I'll report back here, but it also tells a similar story of why your devices would connect to the extender and not directly to the router (as they should!).

I have certainly learned one valuable lesson through all of this. Any wifi device I purchase in the future will be researched for connectivity issues prior to pulling the trigger. Would love to have known all of this before I made the purchase! So many wasted hours! =/

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Update 1/12/2023:

They sent me a TP-Link AC750 Mesh WiFi Extender. The extender successfully connected to my WiFi network, but...big surprise...The SimpliSafe Base Station still cannot connect.

The App and the keypad REPORT that they are connected, but they are not. I cannot perform a check for updates without being prompted that I have no internet connection, despite the fact that I can connect to that 2.4 GHz network with my iPhone, my son's laptop, etc., and browse the internet just fine.

At this point, I'm just done with this whole thing. I'm not willing to spend any more hours on the phone with technical support, I'm not willing to perform my 20th factory reset, I'm just done.

I am pulling down all the sensors, the motion detector, the keypad, all of it. I'm boxing it all up, returning it, and getting my money back.

If your "smart" devices cannot do what all the other smart devices in my home do without having to get on the phone and waste hours with tech support, then they aren't "smart".

If a person with over 25 years of experience dealing with complex hospital networks, and who has dozens of other devices successfully connected to his network, can't perform your "simple", "smart", setup, then you have issues!!

Fix your app. Fix your hardware. Respect people's time and effort.

SimpliSafe isn't ready for prime time yet.

Buyers beware!

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@Cory_Hulet​ it’s amazing SimpliSafe support just doesn’t care. 

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@Cory_Hulet​ I agree!  We have purchased a dozen Simplisafe outdoor cameras and they are complete trash from a connectivity point of view.  When I talk to Simplisafe, they act as if they have never heard of the connectivity issue before and always tell me that they are one of the best cameras out there......I tell them every time that they need to follow the comments posted on their site and also to perform a google search on 'SimpliSafe outdoor cameras', they will see thousands of comments complaining about issues and there are hundreds and hundreds of posts where Simplisafe has responded with comments that they have no solution....so the ARE aware of it but they will not admit to it on the phone!  IMO, selling these cameras with such a well known issue should be illegal as they are taking peoples money knowing they have a severe issue and people are spending hard earned money on a defective product!!!!!

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6 months ago

I'm having trouble with the outdoor camera connectivity too.  All of the other parts of the system have largely worked well.  The outdoor cameras don't seem ready for prime time.  I can test, resest, add range extenders, or have the cameras within 15' of a wireless network source and they still drop.  I test connectivity in the app and it says three out of three bars - connection is good.... and then they drop.  Very disappointed.

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@kevinfrowe​ when you say that the connection for you camera 'drops', what do you mean? Are you having trouble livestreaming?

Or is it that you're seeing an "Offline" status for that camera?

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I agree with everyone. The outdoor cameras don't work well. There are so many negative posts online but Simplisafe refuses to acknowledge the numerous problems. I constantly get the "offline" message and my camera is only 15ft away from the base. I use a NetGear Orbi 860 (1 base and 2 satellites) and my download speeds are 1 Gig. But it still doesn't help the poorly designed and poorly built outdoor cameras. 

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@davey_d​ both

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@kevinfrowe​ thanks for confirming. How far is the camera from your Base Station, and what's in between?

The Base Station is what sends the signal to the Outdoor Camera to wake up from deep sleep, so if there's something blocking that connection, the Outdoor Camera may lag. It might help to move the Base Station, if you haven't already - at least to test it out.

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6 months ago

Same issue. Was hoping to find the answer here but looks like there’s no solution . Camera worked flawlessly until we had a Wi-Fi outage and then it would never reconnect.  Have removed the camera from my system/app, removed the battery and fully charged it. I’ve held the back button for 16 seconds and this camera will not reboot to be re-added to my system.

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@lkesteele​ When resetting the Outdoor Camera, firmly press on the pairing button with both thumbs, if possible, for about 30 seconds. You'll know the camera has successfully reset once you hear it chime. 

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6 months ago

I’m all working perfectly now. The latest firmware has resolved my issues. Good battery life and solid connection 

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@jtjordan​  how did you get them to update th firmware??

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@jtjordan​ wish I could download the new firmware, but my camera still won’t reconnect to WiFi 😩 decided to try the prescribed fixes again after a few months of waiting to see if the issue is resolved but still no luck. Simplisafe should send us all new cameras. So shoddy

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@Pdx​ The Outdoor Cameras update automatically, so no action needs to be taken to prompt a firmware update. Updates are also slowly rolled out to all cameras, so if your camera has not updated yet it should soon.

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@dfdabney​ If the recommended troubleshooting steps in this thread did not help the camera reconnect to Wi-Fi, I would then recommend contacting our Support team for further assistance. 

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6 months ago

I’m all working perfectly now. The latest firmware has resolved my issues. Good battery life and solid connection 

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6 months ago

@datavortex​ Performance Mode (which kicks in when your camera is plugged into AC and is over 90% charged) speeds up your livestream by keeping the camera awake so it's always ready to start streaming or recording.

But it sounds like your actual issue is more with the WiFi connectivity. Have you tried the Connection Check tool in the SimpliSafe app yet? That can help us diagnose the connection and figure out how to improve it. We have more info on this page.

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@datavortex​ Performance Mode (which kicks in when your camera is plugged into AC and is over 90% charged) speeds up your livestream by keeping the camera awake so it's always ready to start connecting.

But it sounds like your actual issue is more with the WiFi connectivity. Have you tried the Connection Check tool in the SimpliSafe app yet? That can help us diagnose the connection and figure out how to improve it. We have more info on this page.

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4 months ago

I am having similar issues. On my fourth replacement now. Works fine for months. Then randomly when the battery needs replaced I put my spare in that is fully charged and once doing that have all kinds of issues with getting it to connect. Support just has me jump though all kinds of hoops and finally gives up and sends me a new one. A replacement camera should not be the solution to the problem.

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4 months ago

This issue has cost them my business after several years. I’m sure I am not the only one.

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4 months ago

I got my system maybe 2 or 3 months ago and my first outdoor camera and my indoor camera paired fine but my second outdoor camera refuses to have an initial install and pair to my wifi. I have tried using a different battery and also plugging it into my solar, and I have never gotten it to connect. Even tried the rebooting by holding the button down for 16 seconds.

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@malwillis10​ Do you see any flashing light on your Outdoor Camera when you try to pair it to your Base Station? And do you get any error message in the SimpliSafe mobile app when you try to set it up? I would also recommend reaching out to our Support team for some real time assistance on getting this camera added to your system.

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4 months ago

It’s hilarious that SS won’t acknowledge the problem are the cameras themselves.  Other battery cameras (RING) work fantastic in the exact same spot on the exact same WiFi network.  But yeah, run the WiFi connectivity tool again, lol!!!!

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3 months ago

I had the same issue - worked fine initially and then stopped connecting to wifi. I got all the same advice. Like most of you, I grew weary of the “reboot it, try changing the network” canned suggested solutions. I have tried a number of different changes. Finally, I discovered that taking it off the magnetic mount that is supplied with the camera solves my problem. I wish that SimpliSafe would do some real investigation and engineering. My camera has been working great for the last 2 weeks since removing it from the magnetic mount. No, I didn’t change my network, batteries, location or anything else.

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@davidcimiri​ you removed it from the magnetic mount, and mounted using the Permanent Mount, but kept it in exactly the same spot? Or could there have been a slight difference in where you placed it?

If the magnet itself was somehow able to generate enough interference to be a problem, I definitely want to report that to our dev team.

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2 months ago

I got the cameras to work!!!

Dealt with the same as everyone above, tried everything, and was sent new cameras by Simplisafe. Those did not work. Found the thread, poked around and eventually got the old and new cameras back online. Here is a summary of main steps I did after the new cameras would not connect. Hope this helps someone. 

(After: resetting router, resetting camera, removing camera, swapping batteries, trying to add camera, updating wifi settings, updating base station, resetting base station)

1) Set up a 2.4 GHz Guest wifi network, WPA2/WPA3 Personal 

2) Removed and reinstalled App on my phone

3) Reset my router

4) Resumed camera install using guest network

5) Camera updated and started working, this update took a while

6) Installed other cameras on either wifi network

7) Set up all cameras to original wifi network 

It seems the problem was getting the first camera to connect, then the others were a breeze. I wonder if the first camera install triggered an update to the base station. Super annoying. Everything back online and functioning great. Curiously before I reset my router (not first time) but after I first set up the guest network, I could see the camera connecting through the mesh network app but it wouldn’t transmit data for more than a second. 

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@ABC123456​ Base Station updates aren't automatic, and need to be initiated by you (either from the app or the Keypad). And while the Outdoor Camera does connect to the Base Station, that link uses local radio, and not WiFi.

I think what did the trick for you is resetting your router. You might have previously had a feature enabled that the cameras aren't compatible with.

But I'm glad you were finally able to get your cameras online. If you run into any further trouble, please do let us know.

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This is so frustrating. My outdoor camera works for a few months, goes through a couple of battery swaps, and then just never works again. So tired of having to call support and have them say it needs replaced. Why should I have to go through this every 3 to 6 months.

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@markmacconnell​ The Outdoor Camera should certainly reconnect to Wi-Fi after replacing its battery. I would recommend resetting your Wi-Fi router like ABC123456 mentioned, as that can help refresh the camera's connection to the network. 

It can also help to set up a 2.4GHz guest network with an entirely different SSID and password from your main network and connect only your SimpliSafe devices to it.

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1 month later and I’m still connected. Getting a lot fewer alerts especially at night despite setting the cameras up to be the most sensitive possible. I used to catch all the raccoon action but no more. Who knows what I am missing. 

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2 months ago

Having the same issue now with my outdoor camera - all other cameras work and connect fine. The outdoor camera had been working for months until the battery ran out. Replaced the battery which resulted in the base station & app seeing the outdoor camera as offline/out-of-battery.

Resetted the camera & tried to re-add it to the system and now it's just gets stuck trying to be added to the wifi. The router sees the connection log, so something seems to be happening with the camera when it runs out of battery or gets reset & it seems to brick itself from connecting back to a network.

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@rayl​ 

Exactly what happens to me.

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@rayl​ If you haven't already, I would recommend restarting your router to see if that helps refresh the camera's connection to the network. And to free up bandwidth, it can also help to set up a guest network locked down at 2.4GHz and connect only your SimpliSafe devices to it.

2 months ago

This is now the second time this has happened to me. All my cameras say they’re offline but I can view them if I go to my account through the browser but not through the app and they will not connect to WiFi so I’m literally having to remove them and redo them AGAIN. Super frustrated, this is the last time, next time they go to the garbage and I’ll literally go anywhere else 

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