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Monday, February 28th, 2022 6:25 PM

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Matter Smart Home Integration

Will Simplisafe update products to be matter compatible? Matter Home Automation Protocol.  It would make great sense to do it and end the issues with HomeKit and other integrations.

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1 year ago

Will SimpliSafe ever become Homekit compatible?

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Will SS integrate with MATTER?

I ordered SS and will be returning if no announcement with reasonable timeline of integration with either. 

I hope they do, SS has great reviews, and is considered a strong choice, but I am sure they are loosing business by not integrating with Apple in some form or fashion.

Lmk, thanks!

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@Techguy90​ 

Will SimpliSafe ever become Homekit compatible?

No, they've answered this question multiple times on the forum. You're never getting Homekit. (And yes, it stinks they haven't put this in a KB entry.)

Will SS integrate with MATTER?

Yes, but as you noted, no timelines have been given. To be fair, I haven't seen much of any concrete timelines from anyone about this.

Please note that the existing gen 3 hardware is almost certainly not going to get matter support. This is conjecture on my part as SS hasn't confirmed or denied this but if matter support is mission critical for you I'd wait to hear what SS's plans are and I'd take them with a grain of salt. Their track record for announcing a product and releasing it is spotty at best with some products arriving years after they were announced and others (see homekit) never arriving at all.

For what it's worth, I'd proceed with caution with any vendor until they've actually got products out that support Matter but I'd be especially cautious with SS. 

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1 year ago

I would really (really) love to see HomeKit + Matter integration. Especially having access to video feeds in the home app. Please prioritize this!

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1 year ago

How is this still not a thing? I can't connect to Smartthings and even though the SimpliSafe website says it is compatible with Alexa, I can't view any of my cameras on my echo show(s) not see them as a brand to add a device manually.  

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@hvarnell​ Samsung's SmartThings platform combines Z-Wave and Zigbee standards, and both use a specific wireless communication that is totally different from SimpliSafe. So even if we did offer integration, our current hardware can never work in the same way.

At this time, we are still exploring interoperability with the greater Matter standard, but we currently have no info on how that will take shape. We'll keep you updated here when we can.

As for the ability to view camera feeds on smart screens, we do have a separate request for that. But the short story is that it is SimpliSafe's policy to keep video locked down and away from third parties, so the feature request is currently not in development.

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@davey_d​ 

As for the ability to view camera feeds on smart screens, we do have a separate request for that. But the short story is that it is SimpliSafe's policy to keep video locked down and away from third parties, so the feature request is currently not in development.

Is there any discussion of whether this will still be the case with SS4 / the new matter enabled systems? I hope everyone at SimpliSafe understands that lack of interoperability w/ other systems is a HUGE issue for MANY of us. I also hope y'all understand that many of us are waiting to see if this changes with the next generation and whether it does or not will (not may, will) determine whether many of us stay with SS or not.

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9 months ago

Just wanted to add my voice to the choir for Homekit integration. This is a big value add for me.

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8 months ago

I have read many of these post in this thread . And I could agree as a consumer that I would want my system integrated into matter. To have all the bells and whistles. Well, with that said, let's take a step back and look at SS business model. Sell great products and monitoring services with a high security standard. I repeat the High Security Standard because system 1 was hackable and that gave SS bad PR. They don't want to put themselves in that situation ever again. And I couldn't agree more. Just in the news recently a home with AMZ product (MS employee) could not use his smart house because of a delivery guy miss heard an auto response to a guess. They shutdown his whole house.Too big to fail business should ever have that much control. So, with all that said I am divided on the correct method to go with. But maybe sell another product to integrate and have a stipulation about not supporting if integrated? Maybe just a though...   

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You make a solid point. Overly complex integrations are fraught with risk. All I want is to be able to use HomeKit to turn it on and off. I don’t really need it to integrate with my lights or any of that other stuff. The fact that I can do it by way of Home Assistant is workable it’s just complex. 

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If you want just the ability to set up the system to work with themes in HK. There is third party tools (Homebridge) that have the ability to provide that. I don't recommend it as it does purpose a security risk.

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@simplisafe, another reminder that a SS developed "gateway" to send simple status flags would be enough for methods like IFTTT to be able to safely connect to IoT devices.  The example I have been providing for past years: SS3 changes system status from armed home to alarm, send flag that can be used by IFTTT to turn on my nine wall switches and plugs to light up my house, inside and out, like a Christmas tree.

Result: SS makes $ by selling the gateway, customers are happy. Win/win. Also safe and secure.

Want to make more $: Sell SS compatible IoT devices to keep the entire eco system encrypted and secure....and make even more $. I'll buy nine units. :-)

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7 months ago

Hi I've been a SimpliSafe customer since 2017, and since way back then the company, even the FOUNDER have been lying about Apple HomeKit integration. Went from "coming soon" to the current repeat of, "we're member of the Connectivity Standards Association (CSA)... following... keeping tabs... we will let you know". It's very clear to me now it's all a total lie. You have NO interested in Apple HomeKit integration and these are just your evolving marketing terms to string people along to your system. Just come clean with it and say if you're looking for Apple HomeKit integration you need to look at other systems. Ironically, I feel very tricked by a company called "SimpliSafe". Not safe. 

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@rockchester​ Oh you you missed it... Somewhere on this forum a customer got a letter saying just that. 

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6 months ago

I don't feel other automation providers like google are as secure as Apple...and knowing that google is in my business enough as it is..I prefer Apple Home vs google/amazon for instance.

I was a SS customer..building a new home and trying to only incorporate Matter compatible devices. Hope ya jump on board...but crying about SAFE is part of your name and working with other protocols seems to my laymen eyes as a bit odd.

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Wow, I’ve just ignored HomeKit integration for a long time. I figured by now it would be an option, but no… and apparently NEVER. I’ve been a customer since the beginning of the company. I’m frustrated at the lack of innovation. I have a huge amount of home automation setup. I really want my security system to be a part of it.

I don’t know why I even typed this much as Simplisafe will ignore or give their stupidly frustrating standard BS response. 

I gotta work on an eBay listing to dump this dog.

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