Matter Smart Home Integration

@Techguy90​ 

Will SimpliSafe ever become Homekit compatible?

No, they've answered this question multiple times on the forum. You're never getting Homekit. (And yes, it stinks they haven't put this in a KB entry.)

Will SS integrate with MATTER?

Yes, but as you noted, no timelines have been given. To be fair, I haven't seen much of any concrete timelines from anyone about this.

Please note that the existing gen 3 hardware is almost certainly not going to get matter support. This is conjecture on my part as SS hasn't confirmed or denied this but if matter support is mission critical for you I'd wait to hear what SS's plans are and I'd take them with a grain of salt. Their track record for announcing a product and releasing it is spotty at best with some products arriving years after they were announced and others (see homekit) never arriving at all.

For what it's worth, I'd proceed with caution with any vendor until they've actually got products out that support Matter but I'd be especially cautious with SS. 

@hvarnell​ Samsung's SmartThings platform combines Z-Wave and Zigbee standards, and both use a specific wireless communication that is totally different from SimpliSafe. So even if we did offer integration, our current hardware can never work in the same way.

At this time, we are still exploring interoperability with the greater Matter standard, but we currently have no info on how that will take shape. We'll keep you updated here when we can.

As for the ability to view camera feeds on smart screens, we do have a separate request for that. But the short story is that it is SimpliSafe's policy to keep video locked down and away from third parties, so the feature request is currently not in development.

@davey_d​ 

As for the ability to view camera feeds on smart screens, we do have a separate request for that. But the short story is that it is SimpliSafe's policy to keep video locked down and away from third parties, so the feature request is currently not in development.

Is there any discussion of whether this will still be the case with SS4 / the new matter enabled systems? I hope everyone at SimpliSafe understands that lack of interoperability w/ other systems is a HUGE issue for MANY of us. I also hope y'all understand that many of us are waiting to see if this changes with the next generation and whether it does or not will (not may, will) determine whether many of us stay with SS or not.

You make a solid point. Overly complex integrations are fraught with risk. All I want is to be able to use HomeKit to turn it on and off. I don’t really need it to integrate with my lights or any of that other stuff. The fact that I can do it by way of Home Assistant is workable it’s just complex. 

If you want just the ability to set up the system to work with themes in HK. There is third party tools (Homebridge) that have the ability to provide that. I don't recommend it as it does purpose a security risk.

@simplisafe, another reminder that a SS developed "gateway" to send simple status flags would be enough for methods like IFTTT to be able to safely connect to IoT devices.  The example I have been providing for past years: SS3 changes system status from armed home to alarm, send flag that can be used by IFTTT to turn on my nine wall switches and plugs to light up my house, inside and out, like a Christmas tree.

Result: SS makes $ by selling the gateway, customers are happy. Win/win. Also safe and secure.

Want to make more $: Sell SS compatible IoT devices to keep the entire eco system encrypted and secure....and make even more $. I'll buy nine units. :-)

@rockchester​ Oh you you missed it... Somewhere on this forum a customer got a letter saying just that. 

Wow, I’ve just ignored HomeKit integration for a long time. I figured by now it would be an option, but no… and apparently NEVER. I’ve been a customer since the beginning of the company. I’m frustrated at the lack of innovation. I have a huge amount of home automation setup. I really want my security system to be a part of it.

I don’t know why I even typed this much as Simplisafe will ignore or give their stupidly frustrating standard BS response. 

I gotta work on an eBay listing to dump this dog.

I consider this really important in getting my wife to jump the technology broom and embrace whole home automation. We are both very frustrated by piecemeal solutions. 

Please, SimpliSafe, embrace the matter standard. You have a good product, we like it, now help us integrate with the other good products out there. Please.

For me it won't matter, too old 😉, but for the future and young folks, it might make some things happen.

@captain11 As you might be aware I'm into Home Assistant, they have embraced matter & thread etc.

My HA Zigbee dongle already does these things. Home assistant has started the open home foundation, ESPHome, Esp32 devices etc. I have not messed with Matter it as its still Beta in HA. I might though.

I think its still in its infancy and has a ways to go. Cost will be a factor. For instance I can buy an Aqara entry sensor that does matter over thread right now on Amazon. One for about $30.

I can get three Zigbee entry sensors for $43.

Z-wave sensors are also more expensive, and not as prevalent in choices, but catching up.

I think there will be some ecosystems issues still to jump over, for a while probably. Lack of cooperation. Greed.

As to SS, my guess is not in the near future. Being a non participating member doesn't mean much to me.

Examples;

The parallel security system for redundancy I put together already does many things people ask for here. DIY

Can be local to LAN or with cloud devices.

Does cameras, Reolink, Unifi etc. With the right equipment and horsepower.

Door open reminders, auto arm and disarm, at my time schedule. Daytime armed Home automatically, sensors I never open armed, Night all sensors armed, less motion in living Quarters. Away, all armed including all of my Zigbee motion sensors. Etc. All DIY.

Auto switches based on time. Still testing. I test everything thoroughly now and lengthy tests. DIY

If alarm is tripped, light up my emergency lights I setup. Small test, 4 smart bulbs. Still WiFi cloud at the moment.

The keypad, ironically is a Ring V2 Z-Wave.

Built in siren, (not very loud) Motion lights, speaks, arming countdown LED lights, lithium rechargeable, muti user pins via HA alarm integration. Etc Etc. Etc. Skys the limit. HA is open source, software is free. Integrations are user supplied and free, donations accepted, lol. DIY integration via GUI or directly programmed in YAML.

When I walk into the bedroom, lamp lights up via a motion sensor.

At 10 PM goes into night light mode at 20 percent light on a time schedule. It's on before my feet hit the floor. Motion sensor also. Same setup in the basement oil room, motion activated smart bulb.

Here's some things SS might do now if willing, so far not willing. Make sensor polling time faster and/or allow some integration and API's.

The SS sensors show up in home assistant so they're already exposed to a degree. They also cross over to Alexa and Google Home, home assistant is compatible with both of those. Has its own voice assistant local only also.

Currently SS polling time is variable depending on when polled 1 to 20 or 30 seconds to know if an SS sensor opened to use with automations, not very useful, and so Zigbee. Not related to SS RF signals to base.

I personally don't see many canned security systems changing real fast from any supplier.

The sales models across the industry are inexpensive equipment, high percentages off, and the real money comes from monitoring and "retention". Multiply just 1 million x $31.99 for an average. Or some are even higher. They, meaning all security suppliers will either change or suffer the consequences, down the road.

Though there'll be a market probably for quite some time yet.

For me, as long as my SS base and sensors operate, I'll use it for redundancy, two is better than one in case of failure or hacking. Something will wake us up.

SS Cameras will be scrapped as/if they fail, but in recent firmware I have sensed "some" improvement. Some mind you, still inconsistent though. No one calls anymore, no one seems to care to know.

I'll fiddle with Matter, but not very much.

I'm happy at the level I'm at and even I have knowledge and abilities limitations with technology.🤔😂 But, I'm game to try new products and software. Opinion only, you asked. Lol Long winded as usual.

https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/matter/

https://www.openhomefoundation.org/blog/announcing-the-open-home-foundation/

Just adding that I would like Matter supported for SimpliSafe as well.

I have started to move on as well, I didn't watch or listen to the 2025 CES. My choice was more of a system that does all in one. I went with Unifi, the home system (wifi, security) with the all in one Applish feel to it. They lack things I like with SS like the outdoor camera w/ solar charging. But at least I don't need to have someone else monitor me and store my videos in AWS or some other cloud. Now if i could figure out on how to flash the SS outdoor camera to turn it into a RTSP (ip camera) would be great!