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Thursday, December 3rd, 2020 1:31 PM

WIFI Connection Issues with Newer Wireless Routers

Just wanted to help from my recent experience yesterday.  I replaced my 4 year old wireless router yesterday with a Netgear Nighthawk AX5200 wireless router.

After setting up the router, my camera's would no longer access the system and my keypad could not login either. The keypad kept indicating that the password is incorrect even though it was (believe me I stared at each and every letter for the password on the keypad for minutes to make sure I was not hallucinating). I tried resetting the base station, restarting the modem, unplugging the camera's and plugging them back in.....no success.

I also confirmed the wireless network was set for 2.4GHz since 5Ghz does not work......still no success.

It clicked that I had activated the new OFDMA feature for both 2.4GHz and 5GHz WiFi Bands to take advantage of the efficient data transmission.

OFDMA is a new feature of the new WiFi 6 era.  OFDMA provides high throughput and a more efficient network.

I began to think maybe the SimpliSafe system could not process this new data transmission method so I disabled it for the 2.4Ghz band.

IT WORKED!

Just a heads up to those that upgrade their WiFi system to a WiFi 6 system that includes the OFDMA feature.  Make sure this feature is disabled when setting up the router on the 2.4GHz band.  You can keep it enabled on the 5GHz band since SimpliSafe does not utilize the 5GHz band.

I believe the OFDMA is typically disabled out of the box but I obviously have not checked every vendor and model to verify so just be diligent and make sure it is not enabled if you are having connection issues and have recently purchased a WiFi 6 router.

I think it will primarily be an issue for people like me that like to take advantage of the router features and change default settings to do so.

Hope this helps someone from getting a few headaches......I took them for you yesterday!

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4 years ago

FYI, I recently purchased a Linksys MR9600 WiFi 6 mesh route to replace my 2011 router.  OFDMA is turned on by default and there isn't a switch to disable it.   I've had no issues with SimpliSafe on the 2.4GHZ band.   If someone needs to have OFDMA disabled, a call to Linksys tech support will get 'er dun.

4 years ago

I just upgraded my netgear router to a wifi 6 netgear. I'm having all kinds of wifi issues with my base station and camera. I've reset the base station by removing power & batteries multiple times. Reset the wifi, forgot the wifi network. I've even found other fixes on other forums. Nothing seems to work. I'm running dual band router that's broadcasting 2.4 & 5, same set up I was running before with my older netgear. OFDMA is turned off on my router. Simplisafe blames my ISP, told me to contact my network Administrator. I am my network Admin.
Simplisafe drops the connection & restores right away continuously all day. I have no other wifi device issues. My base station is 3 feet away from my router.
After the 2nd call to tech support they are replacing my base and my camera. System is only a month old. Sounds like it's a firmware issue with simplisafe. I'd like to see a wired network connection on the base station.

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"I'd like to see a wired network connection on the base station."

This. 100% this!

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3 years ago

I bought this same nighthawk 5200 and had problems out of the box 

I attempted to call NETGEAR but that was no help, I boxed it up & returned it to Best Buy 

I was told this was the best thing out there, after a couple of weeks I got phone call from NETGEAR asking if I needed assistance & I was like REALLY !! I told him nope that ship sailed 2 weeks ago lol 

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2 years ago

July 2022: I can confirm that OFDMA kept OUTDOOR cameras from setting up whilst INDOOR cameras functioned fine. Replaced cameras, same problem. 

I also was using a Linksys router that could not disable the feature. Putting in place a router that you can disable the feature allowed me to install an outside camera.

Note that the feature is built into the "11AX" standard. https://www.linksys.com/us/r/resource-center/what-is-ax/ That is what needs to be disabled. Often in the "802.11 mode" setting.

Simplisafe support knew none of this and had us replace the cameras in shipping. Seems that they should

A) update their devices to function with this common capability

B) inform their support people of the potential problem.

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After seeing this, I checked out my Linksys AC2200 router as I was also having connection issues.

Found this:

Tried all the different settings and it didn't help, unfortunately.

Obviously, no 802.11ax mode is present, but just in case one of these settings enabled connectivity I wanted to try them all and report my findings.

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Update 1/12/2023:

They sent me a TP-Link AC750 Mesh WiFi Extender. The extender successfully connected to my WiFi network, but...big surprise...The SimpliSafe Base Station still cannot connect.

The App and the keypad REPORT that they are connected, but they are not. I cannot perform a check for updates without being prompted that I have no internet connection, despite the fact that I can connect to that 2.4 GHz network with my iPhone and browse the internet just fine.

At this point, I'm just done with this whole thing. I'm not willing to spend any more hours on the phone with technical support, I'm not willing to perform my 20th factory reset, I'm just done.

I am pulling down all the sensors, the motion detector, the keypad, all of it. I'm boxing it all up, returning it, and getting my money back.

If your "smart" devices cannot do what all the other smart devices in my home do without having to get on the phone and waste hours with tech support, then they aren't "smart".

If a person with over 25 years of experience dealing with complex hospital networks, and who has dozens of other devices successfully connected to his network, can't perform your "simple", "smart", setup, then you have issues!!

Fix your app. Fix your hardware. Respect people's time and effort.

SimpliSafe isn't ready for prime time yet.

Buyer's beware!

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2 years ago

These cameras are complete trash.  We bought 9 cameras and 1 failed within weeks.  We now have 5 more failures and many connectivity issues daily (yes I am on a dedicated 2G SSID)– more than half of the cameras we purchased at nearly $2000.  I contacted Simplisafe on the first failure and they walked me through all the typical troubleshooting process (I had already done it myself after some research but I entertained them).  They finally admitted the camera was defective and sent me the new one.  I have less than 50% coverage due to the 5 downed cameras than I am paying for.  These cameras are probably past their warranty and I am told I will need to purchase new ones. What!?  There is clearly connectivity issues and straight out failures as evidenced by the thousands of posts relating to these two issues.  Simplisafe keeps sweeping the issue under the rug but the technician stated that they knew an issue existed in both areas but did not have a solution.  How is Simplisafe still selling these products?  This is basically straight out fraud and we consumers deserve a better response.  Either replace my cameras or give me a full refund and then notify me when the issue is resolved.  Personally, I believe the issue is related to the cheap wireless electronics used in the camera.  How about spend 50 cents more and upgrade to 2G/5G capability.  It’s a small cost on the overall price of the camera and basically would not be noticed on such a high priced camera.

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As far as I know, SS will replace all hardware at any time if there is a failure issue, ie non-human error. 

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10 months ago

I recently setup a TP-Link Deco W7200 mesh Wi-Fi 6 router. The base station and outdoor camera connected but the video doorbell and Simplicam would not. I spent over an hour talking with customer support trying to connect the cameras to no avail. I checked for the OFDMA setting but couldn't find it. What I did find is I can turn on a separate IoT network for smart devices and cameras, so I tried setting it up with a different name and password. YAY! it worked, both cameras joined the network my system is whole again.

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5 months ago

Yes, they cannot use mesh, nor can they use any modern wifi like wifi6 let alone wifi7. No 5Ghz. They went with the absolutely rock bottom cheapest wifi receivers on their products which is why I am ending this frustration with a more modern - and by modern, actually modern, not acts like modern - security.

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@marcisikoff​ we're sorry to hear that you're having connectivity trouble.

You're right that our cameras are only able to connect to the 2.4GHz frequency bands. This is a deliberate design choice by our engineering team to ensure better range and lower power consumption. Of course, any router that can support 5GHz (or even 6GHz) should still be able to support 2.4GHz unless it is disabled in the router settings.

I can also say that our cameras should be able to connect to mesh systems. There just might be a setting or feature that our cameras may not be compatible with. For example OFDMA, as mentioned by OP above. For best results, we recommend setting up a guest or secondary WiFi network with the following settings:

  • 2.4GHz
  • WPA2 or WPA2/3 Mixed Mod
  • SSID and password under 31 characters
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