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Camera Only Useful if Wifi Stays Up?
Just thinking about where to place the camera, and its vulnerability to being disarmed by someone wrecking the internet.
The camera connects via wifi to the entire system, right? So if a thief were to enter the house, they'd have 30 to 60 seconds to find the wifi, yank the router and modem out of the wall, and disarm ALL internet connected cameras that might be in the house. Seems like that'd be a good bet for anyone with some experience breaking into houses, as a general rule, to find the internet router first. Especially if the thieves think, rightly or wrongly, that the local authorities require positive evidence of a break-in's being in progress before they dispatch to the home. No cameras, in such a case, would mean no dispatch.
Anybody know if it's possible to have two routers connected in the house? (Heck, I guess a thief could cut the internet wire before even attempting to enter a house, that'd be a better move than trying to run around inside a house looking for modems and routers.)
Any ideas on concealing the camera? Where SHOULDN'T I put it?
The camera connects via wifi to the entire system, right? So if a thief were to enter the house, they'd have 30 to 60 seconds to find the wifi, yank the router and modem out of the wall, and disarm ALL internet connected cameras that might be in the house. Seems like that'd be a good bet for anyone with some experience breaking into houses, as a general rule, to find the internet router first. Especially if the thieves think, rightly or wrongly, that the local authorities require positive evidence of a break-in's being in progress before they dispatch to the home. No cameras, in such a case, would mean no dispatch.
Anybody know if it's possible to have two routers connected in the house? (Heck, I guess a thief could cut the internet wire before even attempting to enter a house, that'd be a better move than trying to run around inside a house looking for modems and routers.)
Any ideas on concealing the camera? Where SHOULDN'T I put it?
krstrick
138 Messages
4 years ago
Additionally killing the internet will not stop the base station communication. Rationally one would think that lack of video from a location with video present would be prima-facia evidence something is up but I don't know this to be fact and government agencies cannot always be counted on to be rational.
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jonny_gogo
56 Messages
4 years ago
On the other hand, many homes have the internet wire visible from the outside, where it enters the house. Snip snip, all cameras are down. The alarms still sounds though. There wouldn't be video confirmation of the event, that's all.
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jonny_gogo
56 Messages
4 years ago
I think it's interesting how improving security can also become a game of whack-a-mole, in some ways. For example, a while back I replaced all the deadbolts on our doors. Now the deadbolts' strike plate is secured to the door frame with four three inch screws. But then, what good is that if the door breaks at the hinges? Or, well, every door to my house has either glass as part of the door itself or else there are sidelights. So the deadbolt holds, but then someone can just smash the glass and unlock it. I'd have to get that shatter proof film for all the door windows, but then, how much good does that do when I have lots of other windows easily accessible from the ground floor?
The great thing about the alarm, is that it takes a different approach from trying to prevent the intrusion physically and instead it provides a deterrent by threatening to detect and reveal to the police or the home owner that an intrusion is occurring. Yeah I guess a high tech thief could get a couple types of jammers, cut the internet cable from outside, and have an accomplice down the road listening to the police dispatch frequencies. But heck, if you have something so valuable in your house that you're going to have the Mission Impossible crew coming after the crown jewels you've stashed under your mattress, of course you need something other than a DIY system. But in most cases, the folks breaking into homes aren't taking a high tech, organized crime approach. The folks who ARE taking that approach are probably not going to bother with your average home - it wouldn't be worth the effort.
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paulkeith1
11 Messages
3 years ago
Assuming that such a thing exists? (why not?)
Otherwise, almost all alarm systems are equally vulnerable.
(most alarm "boxes' are by a front door and can usually be "taken out' by the same sledgehammer you use to go through the front door. In the long run, you can only rely on how good your monitoring is, and whether they have enough "clout' with the police to get them sent round as soon as the system "sets off'.
I guess in the USA, some police, in some areas of the country, might take this seriously and arrive fully armed like the cavalry of old times. But then again, in the USA, "perps' are frequently armed.
Over here in "limey land' the only way the police will take your call seriously is if you tell them that somebody has offended somebody who is LGBTQ**+--@@ community (or whatever the current acronym is for those who wish to be "identified' by their own particular brand of sexual whatever).
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whoaru99
1.3K Messages
3 years ago
Bear in mind the SS camera and alarm are two separate things. If you have a monitoring plan the SS3 alarm system already has a battery backup and cellular backup.
The camera operates soley on WiFi and just captures recordings, it does not trigger the alarm.
Far as the importance of cameras, I have many on a separate system so, yeah, I think there is some benefit. But, let's face the facts, all a perp has to do wear a mask and they've rendered the video just a means to see what happened rather than a means to identify whodunnit.
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hondaman88
113 Messages
3 years ago
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captain11
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toastie
175 Messages
3 years ago
that said.... I still want a couple outside ones to play with (and set up as hummingbird spy cams! lol!)
but I just like "toys"
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toastie
175 Messages
3 years ago
that said.... I still want a couple outside ones to play with (and set up as hummingbird spy cams! lol!)
but I just like "toys"
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