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ATTN ENGINEERS: SERIOUS Privacy Issues with Camera operation while in HOME mode.
When I am home sitting on my couch and I set the alarm to HOME ONLY mode the Privacy filter opens up and starts recording for 25 seconds inside my house. The camera setting in the system controls interface is set to "Privacy Shutter OPEN in AWAY mode ONLY' (i.e. the only checkbox marked). But still turns on and records when turning off/on alarm in HOME mode. With the system set to "Privacy Shutter OPEN in AWAY mode ONLY' the camera should only be activated in three scenarios:
1. Away Mode Armed and Motion is detected.
2. Away Mode Disarmed
3. Away Mode Armed
With the system set to "Privacy Shutter CLOSED in HOME mode' the camera behavior should be:
1. HOME mode Armed and Motion is detected = NO CAMERA OPERATION
2. HOME mode Disarmed = NO CAMERA OPERATION
3. HOME mode Armed = NO CAMERA OPERATION
The current HOME mode behavior needs to be able to do exactly what the settings says. I do not want the current behavior . I do not want to be recorded in my own house by any cameras at ANY time while enjoying the protection of alarm in HOME mode. When I set the camera system to only activate in AWAY mode, I expected that that is the ONLY time the camera will activate. When in HOME mode and system set to "Privacy Shutter CLOSED in HOME mode' (i.e. Home checkbox left UNCHECKED) It should not come on and record for 25 secs just because I'm activating and deactivating HOME mode via my mobile phone app sitting on my couch. Please provide a PRIVACY setting or change this behavior to allow me to set and ABSOLUTE NO camera operation while in HOME mode (because that is exactly why it is set to HOME, I am HOME). ONLY operate motion detector and recording when alarm is in AWAY mode.
This a SERIOUS enough privacy issue that I'm going to end up leaving SimpliSafe because I want to be able to have a camera monitor my house while I'm away but I want to maintain my privacy while I'm home. I do not need any camera operation while at home with the alarm armed. Please let me know if you do not plan to update this system so I can find service elsewhere.
Please take the time to write the few lines of code to get this done (add a toggle setting: "100% HOME PRIVACY).
1. Away Mode Armed and Motion is detected.
2. Away Mode Disarmed
3. Away Mode Armed
With the system set to "Privacy Shutter CLOSED in HOME mode' the camera behavior should be:
1. HOME mode Armed and Motion is detected = NO CAMERA OPERATION
2. HOME mode Disarmed = NO CAMERA OPERATION
3. HOME mode Armed = NO CAMERA OPERATION
The current HOME mode behavior needs to be able to do exactly what the settings says. I do not want the current behavior . I do not want to be recorded in my own house by any cameras at ANY time while enjoying the protection of alarm in HOME mode. When I set the camera system to only activate in AWAY mode, I expected that that is the ONLY time the camera will activate. When in HOME mode and system set to "Privacy Shutter CLOSED in HOME mode' (i.e. Home checkbox left UNCHECKED) It should not come on and record for 25 secs just because I'm activating and deactivating HOME mode via my mobile phone app sitting on my couch. Please provide a PRIVACY setting or change this behavior to allow me to set and ABSOLUTE NO camera operation while in HOME mode (because that is exactly why it is set to HOME, I am HOME). ONLY operate motion detector and recording when alarm is in AWAY mode.
This a SERIOUS enough privacy issue that I'm going to end up leaving SimpliSafe because I want to be able to have a camera monitor my house while I'm away but I want to maintain my privacy while I'm home. I do not need any camera operation while at home with the alarm armed. Please let me know if you do not plan to update this system so I can find service elsewhere.
Please take the time to write the few lines of code to get this done (add a toggle setting: "100% HOME PRIVACY).
usmaak
343 Messages
4 years ago
SS does not monitor these forums. You are very unlikely to get an answer to your question here. You can try giving them a call, but it's been hit or miss lately as to whether you'll get anyone. They haven't been responsive lately and they keep hanging up on people when someone does get through.
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whoaru99
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4 years ago
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sevensiamesecats
2.2K Messages
4 years ago
If you don't like the way the cameras operate, don't have them (or at least not in places where you don't want them going off).
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sh2402
263 Messages
4 years ago
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hans_ox
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3 years ago
Both sides of this thread make sense in one way or another for the respecting party. I am on the side of privacy. I only want the shutter to open when in Away mode and in Away mode only.
Why is there an option to let SS have access to the camera if the alarm goes off? Isn't better to have someone verify immediately so they know if there is an actual intruder? Yes. Do I want that option? No. It's my choice so on my system it is set to off.
I don't want to have the alarm falsely go off and have a SS rep tune in to my camera only to see my naked butt running across the living room to get to the keypad because I was in the shower. (Which happened once already. Sensor sticky tape didn't last long so I went with the screws. Thankfully it was within the first 72 hours and was not officially being monitored yet.)
I don't want anyone that likes this feature to miss out either. If you want the peace of mind that if someone was holding your loved one by force to disarm the system, go for it. I personally have many cameras on the outside of the house and they would be seen on any one of those.
I don't think this needs to be an all or none option. Just add another toggle switch to the app to determine whether the privacy shutter opens during arming/disarming or even for how long. These are already options available for other features of the app like how long you have to exit the building when arming/disarming.
I did call their 800 CS and they eventually confirmed it was done on their end and not an available option to the consumer...the ones paying them for this service. Not really sure the message will be passed on so hoping someone sees this update and can make one more change happen in order to keep both types of customers happy.
The camera is not a definitive part of the alarm. It works without it so why not give me the option of when to have the shutter open if I decide to have one in my home?
If you sell me something as intruding as a camera, give me 100% control of any and all settings for it.
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simplisafe_admin
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536 Messages
3 years ago
We appreciate your feedback! Our development teams are aware that many of our users would prefer to have more control over which events result in their cameras recording. We have reiterated that to them and it is something that we are looking into providing.
SimpliSafe Social Team
SimpliSafe Home Security
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ssd_office
1 Message
3 years ago
I agree completely with Hans Ox. We value having the camera automatically record when arming and disarming. The change was made without any notice. I think the right thing to do is have the settings default to privacy and allow a user who wants it to be able to override so the camera records when the system is armed.
Please make this update a priority.
Thanks
Craig
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mllindy
1 Message
3 years ago
I'm in complete and utter agreement - make whether AND FOR HOW LONG the camera records on arm/disarm configurable! This should be a no-brainer. And please, oh please, do not make just "whether" an option, and not the "duration"! You will just invite more "feedback".
I already sent a customer service "message" on this same topic. Glad I found this post too. Which wasn't easy. But that's another topic....
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davey_d
Community Admin
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5.7K Messages
3 years ago
I'll pass your message along to our engineering team.
- Johnny M.
SimpliSafe Home Security
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josephhoffman7
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3 years ago
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Aferraris
1 Message
3 years ago
Glad to see this is an issue that others have noticed/taken issue with- though I’m writing this comment a year later than the original post and it’s still happening. I chatted with SS this morning and they just said “thanks for your feedback we’ll take it into consideration.” I’m annoyed because usually when I disarm from Home to Off mode, it’s early morning and my toddler son is running around so I don’t want him on camera when it’s entirely unnecessary.
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andye
2 Messages
3 years ago
Since this company refuse to fix this simple programming fix and breech of privacy (because all records save to your internet account and cannot be deleted online), i know at least 5 friends and family who has swithed to one of the many other do-it-yourself home security systems whos systems do not breach this video privacy. Also post this to all my friends and family on facebook so they avoid signing up fo simpli safe until issue fixed.
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