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Motion Sensor Does Not Work Consistently.
I installed the system about two weeks ago. I tested the system several times. The entry sensors work pretty well during those tests but the motion sensor and the glass break sensor don't give consistent results. I placed the motion sensor in a core location (dining area) of my house, which connects the family room, bedroom and study room. It is about 5-6 feet up on a corner of a wall.
The motion sensor claims to detect motion within 30 feet, but in all my test runs, the motion sensor will not detect anything until I am about 10 - 12 feet away from it. Sometimes it won't even detect anything at all. I once set it in Away mode and the motion sensor did not trigger the alarm as I walked slowly across the entire area. I am now very concerned that either this one is a defect or SimpliSafe motion sensor just doesn't work, in which case is a major drawback of the system.
Anybody else had this issue or have any solutions?
The motion sensor claims to detect motion within 30 feet, but in all my test runs, the motion sensor will not detect anything until I am about 10 - 12 feet away from it. Sometimes it won't even detect anything at all. I once set it in Away mode and the motion sensor did not trigger the alarm as I walked slowly across the entire area. I am now very concerned that either this one is a defect or SimpliSafe motion sensor just doesn't work, in which case is a major drawback of the system.
Anybody else had this issue or have any solutions?
coltmaster1
2.8K Messages
4 years ago
For kitties, mount your motion sensor upside-down (test button on bottom). 6 feet up the wall should be ok, but you might test at 5 feet and go up from there once you turn it upside down (test with kitties in the room, preferably if they are active and get on furniture etc, so you can determine if they are setting them off). If mounted upside down, the "view" will be straight out and up, as opposed to mounting upside-right, which the view will be straight out and down. The goal is for the motion sensor to detect heat signatures from humans at that level (and yes, depending on the pet, it could detect them as well).
There is also a sensitivity switch inside the motion detector, take it off it's back plate and you'll see the switch can be changed to L, M, H. (low, med, high). Start at medium sensitivity and test with the kitties in the room, and if they set them off, then turn the switch to low. If they still set them off, put your sensors higher up the wall slightly and test again. Also test with you or another human in the room so you can determine if they will be tripped at the height and sensitivity level you've chosen (which is the goal, to catch a human heat signature, but not a pet's).
If the kitties continue to set them off, you can always opt for the "secret alert" option, if you're subscribed to the interactive monitoring plan. This will send you an alert to your phone if the sensor is tripped, but the alarm won't sound and monitoring will not call you. This can be a good option to use while you determine optimal placement of the sensors where they won't be tripped by pets.
Other causes of tripped motion sensors: ceiling fans, heat/ac registers nearby a sensor, intermittent sunlight through a window, drapes moving on a window, even a bug on the lens.
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nawrozs
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4 years ago
What does it mean? How to fix it?
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coltmaster1
2.8K Messages
4 years ago
If the issue continues, write down the serial number of the sensor and keep it handy, then from your online control panel in your device list (or via the keypad if you have SS3), delete the sensor, click "save changes" at the bottom of the page, then re-add the sensor with the serial number you wrote down prior, click "save changes" again, the base station should announce it was successful. Again, test the sensor anytime you make changes like that.
If that doesn't work, you could have a faulty sensor, call SS for a replacement if you're under the 3-yr warranty.
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sevensiamesecats
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4 years ago
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mikessmith36
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4 years ago
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whoaru99
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4 years ago
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fredflitzhoff
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4 years ago
I set up the system with three motion sensors about one year ago. I installed and tested it according to the booklet; everything checked out.
A few weeks ago I accidentally discovered the sensors were all but blind. After reading through the blurbs here, I went through some careful testing. I am an electrical engineer whose 35+ year career was in sensor system design, analysis, and test.
I called up SimpliSafe and they shipped me three new motion sensors. I went through the uninstall/reinstall process, and the installation results were the same as when I first installed the system; everything checked out.
I have to say I haven't seen anything on this site that I believe is a logical explanation. InfraRed (IR) sensors are usually cheap and robust, and I don't know why they should degrade so significantly over such a short time. There may be a software issue, but usually those can be reset by removing the battery, which did not help here.
At any rate, if your motion sensors are acting up and they are still under warranty, get them replaced. Until the problem is identified, the system should be tested regularly. I was a bit lax on that, but this is certainly a wake-up call, since there is no indication when the units started to fail. Note that pressing the button on the sensor in test mode establishes the link with the base unit, but as the instructions say, you have to test with actual motion. Leaving the room for 15 seconds, as the instruction book says, will do the trick if the sensors are working. Two minutes is not required or helpful.
Good luck -
Fred
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dpickut
6 Messages
4 years ago
I got two replacement motions sensors from SimpliSafe because the original units didn't seem to be working consistently.
While adding them to the system, I noticed a device setting available on the system control panel: scroll down in the motion sensor device menu, and there's a setting that says "Instant Trigger" -- it is set to "off" by default.
I set it to "on" for each of my motion sensors -- they now work fine!
There's no reference to this setting in the setup manual that shipped with the system.
I'm guessing the default setting ("off") has a time delay to prevent nuisance triggering. (Just a guess -- it would be nice if SimpliSafe would explain this in the installation manual for the system.)
I hope this is helpful.
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kelly_mt
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4 years ago
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simplisafe_admin
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4 years ago
Instant Trigger is a pretty simple setting that does just one thing. When Instant Trigger is turned on for a sensor, if that sensor is tripped it will skip the Entry Delay and immediately sound the siren on your system instead of having the keypad beep first. For more information on what all of the settings for your devices do, please visit our Help Center.
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fredflitzhoff
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4 years ago
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shiherlis
740 Messages
4 years ago
While there is no question many are having problems with the Motion Sensors, it is not a statement you can make that the component is unreliable. Some of us have Motion Sensors that work correctly, which leans toward some with reliability and some without dependability. While I feel for those with issues (at one point or another, we all have had them with the alarm over years of ownership), to state 100% negative comments as accurate is merely untrue.
Again, I empathize with those with problems and the attempt to find out precisely what is causing them. As I mentioned in my post above, perhaps it comes down to a manufacturing issue and is the manufacture date. I had no problems with my Motion Sensors from 2013-2018 with SS2, and I have not had any beyond a single unresponsive sensor (which reseating the battery fixed) since March 2018 with SS3. There is a problem (clearly), and perhaps SS can rule out or pinpoint the manufacturing/date of manufacture if those dates of purchase are shared.
The answer is getting to the solution, and a great majority of times over the years, we, the customers, and not SimpliSafe have accomplished and provided answers gone unsolved. It is not what we should expect, but it is what we have come together and always done.
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simplysuspicious
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4 years ago
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captain11
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4 years ago
First, make sure all of your motions to be tested are set to alarm for away mode..
Second, arm your system on away and be in part of the house not covered by a motion.
Third, have your phone or keyfob in hand, and then after waiting about 3-5 minutes, walk into an area your motion sensor is covering.
4th shut off alarm quickly.
You will not get a call from monitoring if you shut it off quickly. Want to test monitoring? Don't shut off the alarm but make sure you have your phone with you.
Yes, the sensors work on a heat signature and must "map" the area being covered with existing temps. You can also test your motions by hitting the test button on top of the sensor, wait 3-5 minutes and then walk through the area and the base will say "motion sensor" but I like my method better.
If your motions do not test properly, call support. Please post your outcome here after your test.
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