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Safe word request

Background:

On Saturday our alarm was tripped by our vacuum for the first time since we got it. My wife got a call from an unknown source, introducing themselves by first name (don't recall if they stated they were from simplisafe), explaining that the alarm was tripped and requested a passcode. This struck odd to us, as we have never had to tell the passcode, which to us meant the pin number we input when disarming the device. The person then requested my wife's name, at which point my wife thought it was too suspicious and hung up.

The person then called me, and we went through the same procedure. Again, I cannot recall if they said they were from simpli safe, not that it matters, as anyone can call and pretend to be. Then they asked for passcode again, and I explained I never had to give out the passcode. They told they needed the password, which can be just word or word and numbers. I knew what they were asking for this time. Issue resolved.

Recommendations:

Recommendation One: SimpliSafe needs to have a password for when calling us so we can identify it is really them. Maybe something that gets texted realtime to us, and changes every call.

In a time of phone number spoofing, we need a way to be able to identify that it is SimpliSafe calling us and asking for information. Here is a simple report on how easy it is to spoof phone numbers and pretend to be someone else: https://www.businessinsider.com/phone-number-spoofing-2016-2. How easy would it be to pretend to be someone and try to gain access to our system? I would argue reasonably comfortable with the current standard.

Recommendation Two: Use proper terminology when asking for something across the board. There is a difference between password, passphrase, and passcode. Keep it standard across.

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@Maybelle Rose, your vacuum cleaner set off the alarm? Please confirm that one. I have been a customer 7 years with SS2 and 3 and never, ever heard that scenario.

Second, COPS, and the company before them, were always excellent in response and held true to the exact SOP. No issues. I strongly suggest you call Simplisafe, give them the date and time of the alarm condition and calls, and ask for them to investigate and advise you what happened.

Please post your outcome here.

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Captain11,

appreciate your thoughts. We were also surprised that the vaccuum set off the alarm, as it had never done this before. My main comment was that we need to have a safe word from SimpliSafe so we can verify it is them. Phonenumber Spoofing is a reality these days, cannot verify who is calling. (imagine website phishing with two factor authentication.) As for the call,  I did infact get a call from SimpliSafe and discuss it. My other point on that was different verbiage was used, which made the call seem rather fishy.

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It's not that complicated.  When you set up your account Simplisafe, like all monitored alarm systems, requires you to set up a password so when they are talking to you on the phone, they know it's really you.  Otherwise someone outside your household could change your service or cancel a "false alarm" that they triggered breaking in.  You shouldn't have been surprised when they asked for it.

I recommend taking glass sensors off instant trigger.  The only times I've accidentally triggered them was by breaking glass in the kitchen (to be expected), and by sneezing near one of them (a surprise).  When I heard the base unit beeping, I knew the alarm had been triggered and I had time to walk to the keypad and turn it off before an alert was sent to the monitoring service.

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Taggart,

thanks for your suggestion. However, we were not home at the time of the call, so not sure the glass sensor was the issue. Again, the main point was that we have no way of knowing it is SimpliSafe calling. I understand that their number pops up, but that can be masked and spoofed. How do we know it is them? There should be a way of verifying.

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Glass break sensors should always be set to instant trigger (think away mode, and when you're sleeping - , doubtful you're going to hear the countdown delay when you're sleeping) - it's an extra layer of protection.

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My only issue with the code word is they asked me to spell it.  We purposely picked an obscure word that even I have trouble spelling.  

Is the word not there for them to see?  Or are they typing it in to see if it's the correct word?  (I have to assume they themselves have to type it in, since we've been asked to spell it more than once!)

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@toastie  the dispatcher does not see your safe word. They type it in and get a response that it is right or not.

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which means that if they mis-spell it, it is treated exactly the same as if you give them the wrong word or don't give them any word.  They say thank you, hang up and dispatch the police.
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